how to realise 2nd function with Shift button?

[Hermu]

my keyboard has a Shift button with CC:30 Value=0..1, but i have not found any Action condition which could be used as trigger.

i want to use Shift to realise:
[Shift]+[<<] - Goto previous Marker
[Shift]+[>>] - Goto next Marker
[Shift]+[>] - Set Marker
[Shift]+[Stop] - Goto Beginning

[azslow3]

Check Faderport build-in preset for good Shift definition. It has "lock" as well (so, in case you use it alone, it will work as  "CapsLock"), but do not forget set "ShftUsed" in other controls actions lists then.

With CC:30 Value=0..1, you should use "Pad" hardware type and "Note: Off" condition. So, simple (complete!) definition.
* Shift -> Yes
* Note:Off - Shirt ->No.
In case you want LED, add State Monitor "Shift" with MIDI <value> /SysEx action.

In other controls, you use "Shift" condition:
* Shift: Yes - Command "Go to previous Marker"
* Shift: No - Command "Rewind"

[Hermu]

Yes, i have seen this in Faderport, but i can't use it,  because i'm using a Standard Preset and can only Set State for Mode and Bank.

Ok, i have found the solution.
First i have to create a new Software State for Shift and _ShiftUsed in Options Tab ...

Cool, AZ Controller has more flexiblity than expected 

[MarKo]

Excuse me to jump into your thread, but do you know that you can create as many states as you like? (in Options).
But maybe i misunderstood...

Ah i see, you were faster

[Hermu]

Excuse me to jump into your thread, but do you know that you can create as many states as you like? (in Options).
But maybe i misunderstood...

Ah i see, you were faster

Yeah, seconds after i have send my post i was thinking about unused functions, and then it's clear 

[MarKo]

i dont know how many keys you have available, but maybe you are interested in getting even more "shifted" possibilities.
What i did for example:
[<<] - rewind
[>>] - forward
[>>]+[<<] - Goto next Marker
[<<]+[>>] - Goto previous Marker
[Shift]+[<<] - Goto previous measure
[Shift]+[>>] - Goto next measure

So you have 2 more useful functions with same number of keys!
The point is that the transport-keys can also be pressed together (its relevant which button is pressed/hold at first).
Maybe the combinations [>>]+[<<] look strange, but i find it really useful.
if you are interested, i´ll upload an example. It has 2 more "shift"-states for the transport buttons.

[Hermu]

i dont know how many keys you have available, but maybe you are interested in getting even more "shifted" possibilities.
What i did for example:
[<<] - rewind
[>>] - forward
[>>]+[<<] - Goto next Marker
[<<]+[>>] - Goto previous Marker
[Shift]+[<<] - Goto previous measure
[Shift]+[>>] - Goto next measure

So you have 2 more useful functions with same number of keys!
The point is that the transport-keys can also be pressed together (its relevant which button is pressed/hold at first).
Maybe the combinations [>>]+[<<] look strange, but i find it really useful.
if you are interested, i´ll upload an example. It has 2 more "shift"-states for the transport buttons.

yes, [>>]+[<<] and [<<]+[>>] looks realy strange and if you want use Toggle it's unusable, but it's a alternative idea 

my suggestions to configure a keyboard without [Shift] button:

hold down [Stop] button for [Shift] function
[Stop]+[<<] - Goto previous Marker
[Stop]+[>>] - Got Next Marker
[Stop]+[Play] - Set Marker
[Stop]+[Track>] - Shift Mixer 8 tracks to right
[Stop]+[<Track] - Shift Mixer 8 tracks to left

[azslow3]

MCU has 4 "modifier keys", and they are really in use by the original plug-in. AZ Controller support unlimited number of modifier keys. I like ultimate solutions 

[MarKo]

I don´t know what you mean with "Toggles not useable".
But yes, this approach with [>>]+[<<] and [<<]+[>>] does not work so well with other functions, because you need a function that (without any modifier) doesn´t conflict with the other layers.
But in this special case it works really well: while pressing [<<] rewinding starts, but as soon as i press [>>] it jumps to previous marker. And because markers are always more far away, it doesn´t harm that rewinding has started for short period.

With your plan to use the stop-button, you would have to move the actions to the button-release, which i don´t like for transport. I think Start/Stop should react immediatley, which is not possible if Stop is Shift.

[azslow3]

I don´t know what you mean with "Toggles not useable".

MMC Transport keys do not send "Off" events, and so unusable as "shift" or combinations.

[MarKo]

Ah, i didn´t know - thats not so nice.
Ok, then you can forget my idea.